Willy Adames SS
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|2017-09-07 20:00:00 (link to chat)||Within the context of a deep dynasty, if you were going to load up on prospects with an ETA of late 2018/2019/early 2020 for a single position (CI, MI included), which position would you choose and why? Who would some of the standout names be for you?|
(Punchoutpappy from First In Flight)
|I'd load up on shortstops because a lot of non-shortstops in the majors started out as shortstops. Plus, the current crop is deep: Gleyber Torres, Kevin Maitan, Delvin Perez, Brandan Rodgers, Willy Adames, Bo Bichette, Jorge Mateo, Nick Gordon, Isan Diaz... (Scooter Hotz)|
|2017-07-13 14:00:00 (link to chat)||Which prospect do you think has the biggest disparity in real life value from fantasy value? Both ways- more valuable than in real than fantasy and vice versa|
(James from CT)
|Willy Adames is a name that comes to mind as someone that could be better in real life than in fantasy. On the other side, I think Nick Gordon should be a great fantasy asset (speed, speed, and more speed) even if he doesn't reach his full potential. (Mark Barry)|
|2017-06-27 20:00:00 (link to chat)||After watching A LOT of Willy Adames in Durham, I don't get the hype. His glove is fine. But I've seen him dribble the ball throughout the infield and hit a ton of IFFB. Reports are still warm on him. Where do you think he ends up in the midseason? |
(Punchoutpappy from First in Flight)
|Adames has always been a profile prospect for me: a polished prospect and a good bet to hit a little while staying up the middle, the type of player who is very likely to be an average or slightly better regular but not likely to be a star. I think generally his rankings have reflected that.
It would be cheating if I told you his ranking, ha. (Jarrett Seidler)
|2017-06-27 20:00:00 (link to chat)||Two part question and thanks for doing the live chat!
First, what's a way to evaluate minor league numbers? I see a guy like Willy Adames put up a mediocre BA but some put him developmentally ahead of Gleyber Torres at his age. How can we read beyond scouting reports and box scores to see the real talent?
Second, do guys like Ryan McMahon or Alex Verdugo have a shot of getting a permanent callup this season?|
(tbdubbs from New York)
|Adames hasn't been ahead of Gleyber Torres for some time. Torres has way more hitting potential, but it's not something that's necessarily obvious from a triple-slash; it's more to due with raw power and bat speed. The best way to tell is, of course, making it out to games and watching a lot of baseball. Secondarily, talk to as many people as you can who know the players and know the game.
McMahon and Verdugo could both be up at any time. Both those teams are contending and don't have an immediate organizational need, so it depends on injuries and the like. (Jarrett Seidler)
|2017-04-05 23:00:00 (link to chat)||Dynasty rebuild (25 man x 20 team) where prospects must be carried on roster. Which of the following acquired assets have highest upside/best chance to be "pillars" for the next championship?? '
Bats: Gallo, Josh Bell, Vlad Jr., Nick Williams, Brad Zimmer, Willy Adames, Mateo, Robles, Ames Rosario, Corey Ray
Arms: Bundy, Reyes (post injury), Matt Manning, Sandy Alcantara, Walker Buehler
(Loria's Cousin Fazzie from Milwaukee,, Wi)
|In terms of cornerstone ceiling, I'd put Gallo, Vlad Jr., Robles, and Reyes in that category of guys I could see topping out as top-50 players. Maybe Ray too? There's varying degrees of risk baked in there - for instance, Gallo's more likely Russell Branyan than he is Babe Ruth. Vlad Jr.'s like 11 and carries the associated developmental risk, etc. It's a solid collection of talent for a rebuild with a window 3-4 years out. (Wilson Karaman)|
|2017-02-14 12:00:00 (link to chat)||Why isn't Willy Adames getting more hype?
Dude was like the 3rd best hitter in the Southern League last year despite being one of the youngest players in the league. His BP write-up for this year's annual seems to think that he has a good chance of sticking at SS. Just curious why he hasnt received more hype. |
(someguynamedkenn from NJ)
|Craig hates the Rays.
(The real answer is we like him a lot as you can tell by the ranking, but he isn't the type of guy that inspires particularly purple prose) (The Top 101 Prospect Chat with Jeffrey Paternostro)
|2017-01-18 20:00:00 (link to chat)||Please rank Amed Rosario, Willy Adames, Cody Bellinger and Kopesch in a 20 team dynasty league. Thank you!|
(Josue from SD)
|Rosario, Bellinger, Adames, Kopech. (Bret Sayre)|
|2016-11-22 20:00:00 (link to chat)||What's your feel on Willy Adames? I'm higher on him than ______, but I believe _____ will be better than him. Anything in particular stand out about Adames?|
(PunchoutPappy from First in Flight)
|Feels weirdly under the radar since the initial burst of hype within a few months of the Price trade. He's a very good prospect who keeps climbing up the system without making a lot of noise one way or the other. Think he's moved past, say, Jorge Mateo, and is in the next tier down globally from the hypothetical Rodgers/Torres group we were talking about earlier. (Jarrett Seidler)|
|2016-11-11 13:00:00 (link to chat)||What kind of future do you envision for Willy Adames? Future star, good player, average guy, bench/role player? Thanks!|
(Carlo from Texas)
|Good everyday player. He seems like a guy that might be underrated because the numbers won't pop off the b-ref page. There is nothing spectacular there, but he should hit, get on base, and I could see Tampa moving him around the diamond a lot and getting some extra value out of him that way. (Jeffrey Paternostro)|
|2016-08-15 22:00:00 (link to chat)||What does Willy Adames' prospect status look like after the season? What kind of player do you think he eventually becomes? Thanks!|
(Juan from Chicago)
|I liked what I saw of his bat at the Future's Game, there's evident strength and some loft to it. Put together a solid BP. The glove remains closer to the borderline among some folks I asked, but if the bat keeps playing it's probably enough to keep him at short. He checked in 30th on our mid-season list this summer, and I don't anticipate that number getting larger this winter. He can start for a big league team if the bat gets all the way there. (Wilson Karaman)|
|2016-06-27 20:00:00 (link to chat)||Willy Adames has been raking and no one seems to be talking about it. What do you think of him? 2nd coming of Jhonny Peralta? |
(illwilmyers from SD)
|The glove is a bit better than Peralta but the bat is a similar profile. The power he has been flashing this year has been a nice surprise though. (James Fisher)|
|2016-06-27 20:00:00 (link to chat)||Who do you think is the better fantasy baseball prospect: Ian Happ or Willy Adames?|
(John from TX)
|Give me Adames, his glove is better and I'm not sold on Happ's bat as much as some. (James Fisher)|
|2016-04-21 19:00:00 (link to chat)||What kind of upside could Willy Adames have? does he stick at shortstop? |
(Jeff from Tampa, Florida)
|You're probably looking at a $15-20 earner on the high end, with maybe one of those surprising $25 seasons. I think he sticks at short; he has the athleticism for it even if he'll never profile as a great option out there. (Mike Gianella)|
|2015-02-26 20:00:00 (link to chat)||Better offensive upside, Willy Adames or Amed Rosario?|
(RTrydel from Baltimore)
|Adames, but both have less offensive potential than conventional wisdom suggest. (Bret Sayre)|
|2015-02-04 19:00:00 (link to chat)||Settle these arguments for me please:
1) Is Willy Adames a better prospect than Rio Ruiz?
2) Steven Souza or Wil Myers for the next five years?|
(Omarion from Hardly, On., Canada)
|I'll take Adames. Was unimpressed with Ruiz in my AFL viewing. Feel for contact is there, but I don't think he's a 3B, and if he isn't, then what is the profile like? Fringy, contact-oriented strong side platoon guy? Adames does nothing spectacularly, but I think he'll hit for some avg/power at the big league level, and his defense at a non-SS position should be solid avg.
Myers by quite a bit. (Jordan Gorosh)
|2015-01-15 18:00:00 (link to chat)||I'm having a hard time getting a read on Willy Adames ... getting the impression Ahmed Rosario, Gleyber Torres are better prospects (bat and defense) ... what's your take?|
(Jim from Orlando)
|I really like Adames and believe he could be a solid regular at the MLB level. That said, I'm a bigger fan of Rosario and Torres. I would take both as low-level shortstop prospects ahead of Adames. There's too much in Adames' game that leaves me slightly down on the defensive profile and an aggressive approach that could limit the offensive output. That said, Adames is a very good prospect, and one the Rays were smart to target at the deadline last year. (Mark Anderson)|
|2015-01-05 15:00:00 (link to chat)||Willy Adames is ranked the #1 prospect in the Rays system- Is that due to a weaker farm, or is his talent legit?|
(Ron from Texarkana)
|Both. (Jeff Moore)|
|2015-02-09 20:00:00 (link to chat)||Glad to see that Willy Adames is on the list. I'm very torn on his upside. Does he possess the elite upside of some of the other SS in the low minors (Rosario, etc)?|
(James from Tampa)
|I had him as a 6/5 in the Ray's Top 10 so I see him a bit below. It's good upside as a first-division regular though. There are some thoughts he's going to slide off the position down the line as he isn't the most natural at shortstop, but he has shown to be able to handle it for now. (Top 101 Chat)|
|2014-12-11 18:00:00 (link to chat)||Is Willy Adames a top 100 guy in your mine? |
(Tiger from Roseville, MN)
|I have had a fair amount of exposure to Adames during his brief Stateside career, and I'm having trouble seeing him as a Top 100 type of player. I can see flashes of impact tools on occasion, but more often than not everything looks like it is going to come together as a fringe to average Major League infielder, and that just doesn't excite me the way I believe a top 100 talent should. (Mark Anderson)|
|2014-11-04 18:00:00 (link to chat)||How good is Willy Adames? Having hard time sorting out his talent and attention he's getting against lack of depth in the Ray's system|
(Chris from Tampa)
|It was even harder to sort out just how good Adames was when compared to the complete absence of depth in the Tigers system. I like Adames. I've seen him a fair bit, both right when he arrived in the States and a little bit in West Michigan this year. The defensive profile sits around average if the body matures as you'd expect from an athlete of his caliber, and I think he sticks at the position for a while, at least. I think the bat is going to play but he's going to have to evolve the approach a bit to really see his raw power manifest in games. I like Adames a lot but I'm not convinced he's a budding star quite yet. I've talked to scouts that turned him in as everything from a utility player to a high-6 talent; that's a wide gap and one that should narrow as he faces a little stiffer competition in the FSL in 2015. (Mark Anderson)|
|2014-10-14 18:00:00 (link to chat)||What is Willy Adames' ceiling? I like Price a lot, but in a vacuum, are the Tigers going to regret trading away Willy?|
(Bill from Detroit)
|His ceiling is Babe Ruth. He can be as good as Babe Ruth. He better start eating though. (Matt Sussman)|
|2014-10-09 15:00:00 (link to chat)||While it's believed that the Rays farm system is now a Bottom 10 system, due to poor drafting/graduations/trades, it's being given a bit of a bad wrap. The last couple of years have seen the Rays acquire useful Major League players(Escobar, Boxberger, Hanigan, Roberts) for generally unknown prospects and many other prospecting websites have both Rays pitching and positional prospects littered throughout "sleeper" and "breakout" prospect lists. Are the Rays starting to creep up system rankings again? Doesn't hurt to acquire a guy like Willy Adames or sign a guy like Adrian Rondon either.|
(jlarsen from Chicagoland)
|The Tigers have acquired useful parts for their prospects, and still have a bottom ten system. Adames is on the fringe of the top 100, and I don't think he makes it. Rondon probably won't debut until 2020.
In fact, the Rays system is probably at its weakest point in this administration. The botching of the 2011 draft has a lot to do with it. They had what, 11 picks in the first 100, and there's a very strong possibility that there isn't an every day regular in the bunch.
Every system has 'breakout candidates' and unknown guys who step up. It's entirely possible they place zero guys in the top 100, although I think O'Connor/Adames are somewhere in the conversation. Where is the impact coming from? I don't know if they have anyone who I'd project as a '6' OFP player, aside from Rondon who can barely drive. So, to answer your question, they're a bottom ten system. (Jordan Gorosh)
|2014-09-03 14:00:00 (link to chat)||Looking at Willy Adames' stats, post-trade, it seems that he improved as a hitter a bit. Does pairing him up with Wong at the top of the order and down the middle defensively settle the young speedster down and allow for him to see and wait for better, more hittable pitches?|
(Hot Rod from Illinois)
|It's A Ball. So, no. He's just good. (Jordan Gorosh)|
|2014-08-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)||The pub on Willy Adames has grown exponentially since Thursday. What's his realistic future?|
(PG from Florida)
|Yeah, getting traded at the deadline will do that to you. His realistic future is to get out of his teens and then we can figure out where he'll play. He could stick up the middle or move to third. It's a good bad though. Still a long way away. (Jeff Moore)|
|2014-07-31 19:30:00 (link to chat)||Ok Ben, talk us Rays fans off the ledge. Give us something on Willy Adames.|
(James from Florida)
|Jordon Gorosh told me he likes him earlier today, and he's definitely the man to ask for this. In terms of talking you off the ledge ... I really can't, sorry. I like Franklin as a starter and I like Smyly as a fine No. 4, but that's not enough for Price. I sincerely think the Rays could've and should've done better. Nice to see Franklin freed from a fantasy POV, though.
Lots of "wtf Rays" questions, I'll knock a few of them out here. (Ben Carsley)
|2014-07-22 15:00:00 (link to chat)||What kind of offensive upside do you see with Willy Adames? How would you rate his future bat and power? Can he stay at SS?|
(Joe Random from San Jose)
|It's funny, I've been stuffing Adames since the spring. It's gone from "who the F is this guy" to "is he the best Tigers prospect??" (he's not, by the way).
In fact, a guy who I trust within the Tigers org told me this spring "you may not know who this guy is, but he's got the highest upside of any of the Tigers MIFs." Turns out, that is probably correct. I'm not 100% Adames can stick at SS, because he's got thick legs already at 18. He makes the routine plays there now, and the range is average, but he's going to continue to get stronger, and the upper body should fill out some. It's not a Juan Uribe build, but he's not a small dude.
At the plate, he's got plus bat speed, and a really good approach for an 18 YO. The MWL is tough to hit, especially for power (not like his next level, FSL will be any better). There are a lot of moving parts here, but I could see him being a solid average hitter with solid average power. Maybe even a half tick more on each. It's exciting, and he's in the Tigers' top 5 prospects. (Jordan Gorosh)
|2014-07-22 15:00:00 (link to chat)||Could you rank these Tigers prospects in order of most to least you would be ok with getting traded for relief help at the deadline. Javier Bentancourt, Willy Adames, Johnathan Crawford|
(Jimmy from Grand Rapids)
|I'd prefer they held onto Adames. Crawford, then Betancourt. Betancourt is a hit tool first 2B without any big time athletic skills. Just a personal favorite of mine because he's got a nice approach and high ceiling. Crawford looks more and more like a reliever every time I see him. (Jordan Gorosh)|
|2014-07-22 15:00:00 (link to chat)||In five years, who is the best player: Willy Adames, Derek Hill, Jake Thompson, Robbie Ray, Nick Castellanos?|
(Tigersfan from MI)
|Hill has the highest ceiling, but I'll go Castellanos. (Jordan Gorosh)|
|2014-07-08 13:00:00 (link to chat)||How about the season Willy Adames is putting together at West Michigan. How has his stock changed so far this season? Very impressed with his performance for his age. Any increase in projected upside now? |
(Jim Humdingding from Keenesburg, CO)
|Adames has one of the highest raw ceilings in the Tigers system. He always had the raw ceiling, but even the Tigers didn't expect him to put things together this quickly. His approach at the plate has been vastly improved over last year in the DSL. His defense has been solid and the raw power is playing very well. He's a Top 10 guy in that system right now in my opinion. (Mark Anderson)|
|2014-05-27 11:30:00 (link to chat)||What prospect not on everyone's radar that should be?|
(Johnny from NY)
|I follow the Tigers pretty closely, and see a lot of MWL ball, so my answer is kind of biased here. However, Willy Adames hasn't been getting much attention quite yet, and I think that's going to change soon. One of the youngest guys in a pitcher heavy league at 18, hitting for some average, walking, and producing some power. The lower half is a bit thick, and even though he's got the tools to play SS, there's a possibility he ends up at 3B. He's got legit bat speed, and will likely crack the Tigers top 10 this offseason. (Jordan Gorosh)|
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